Tuesday, June 13, 2006
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Does being found guilty in a court of law, legitimize coercive action by that court or any policing state against that 'guilty' individual? Why?
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Courts are an alternative to violence. If an individual commits a crime against another individual and attempts to conceal his activity or otherwise avoid a court appearance he has implicitly chosen violence.
But just because others choose violence, does not mean that we must respond in kind.
If we choose to take our adversary to court we give up our right to take revenge and allow the law to judge him. Anything that the courts might do should be less than or equal to what revenge we would have exacted ourselves.
Again, the question hinges on the legitimacy of the court and the law it reads.
Nathan
But just because others choose violence, does not mean that we must respond in kind.
If we choose to take our adversary to court we give up our right to take revenge and allow the law to judge him. Anything that the courts might do should be less than or equal to what revenge we would have exacted ourselves.
Again, the question hinges on the legitimacy of the court and the law it reads.
Nathan
How EXACTLY are you defining violence? Courts and the criminal justic system force people to do things they don't want to do ALL THE TIME. People aren't in jail because they like it. How is this different than the "violence" you speak of?
EXACTLY how different? In what way?
EXACTLY how different? In what way?
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: 5:27 PM
As a working definition let's say an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
People in jail should be given the option of making full restitution to their victims, that is, criminals are the ones protected by a just legal system, because they do not have to face the avenger if they don't want to.
I would say that today's court system is illegitimate and the laws it is based on are corrupted by arbitrary legislation.
To clarify, I believe in an absolute Natural Law that can be discovered, and that the courts could be the proving ground for such discovery.
Nathan
People in jail should be given the option of making full restitution to their victims, that is, criminals are the ones protected by a just legal system, because they do not have to face the avenger if they don't want to.
I would say that today's court system is illegitimate and the laws it is based on are corrupted by arbitrary legislation.
To clarify, I believe in an absolute Natural Law that can be discovered, and that the courts could be the proving ground for such discovery.
Nathan
Isn't the reliance on a court system, simply allowing for the preference of a particular type of violent action?
What seperates violence and coercion?
What seperates violence and coercion?
Wait...So which of these is your argument
1) So courts are the alternative to coercion, but they have to use coercion to implement their ruling?
OR
2) A criminal convicted by the court can opt to either abide by the ruling or stay free and risk being subject to violence of the "avengers"?
In either case, I don't see how courts are an alternative to coercion.
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1) So courts are the alternative to coercion, but they have to use coercion to implement their ruling?
OR
2) A criminal convicted by the court can opt to either abide by the ruling or stay free and risk being subject to violence of the "avengers"?
In either case, I don't see how courts are an alternative to coercion.
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